Renault Talisman against Ford Mondeo, Mazda6, Skoda Superb and VW Passat
Renault already has with its large saloon Talisman in every way. We face major rivals, all models of a segment formidable commercially rundown.
Long ago the sedan half traditional three volumes ceased to have the importance it had once. The sedan It has been a very popular format issues and family practices, but also in this category also sought in them a certain distinction. But over the years, has been losing presence on the street and private car (company cars outside), perhaps self evolution of the automobile, which it has turned the SUV phenomenon in a proprietary format and also … practical Y family. But the sedan He has followed its own course without deviation. Maybe today is a product for client plus traditional, that found in three volumes body distinction without resorting to a prestigious brand; Also practicality and not least, the more natural dynamic behavior. And in all this the new Renault Talisman It has much to say.
Renault Talisman: an immense saloon
The current average sedan are all impressive sight. In Talisman, 15 centimeters longer than the replaced lagoon, Renault already has also its immense saloon 4.85 meters long, an almost generalized dimension in the segment. Plant Renault Talisman impresses without being the biggest, perhaps for certain traits and 19 inch wheels This finish Initiale Paris, It seems to belittle his opponents. But it is his dynamic behavior which provides greater distinction. He Renault Talisman Laguna has inherited from that address integral 4Control which it served to define a GT sports variant, which is not strictly the case Talisman. The four-wheel steering It is standard feature in this luxury high-end finish Initiale Paris (And optional on the previous Zen finish) which, together with a adaptive damping multimode operation, also standard, to define a very comfortable car suspension, very dynamic and roadside reactions maneuverable in town. In this sense, 4.85 meters Renault Talisman seem the most "short and light" category.
The 4Control direction of Renault Talisman It proposes different degrees of rotation of the rear wheels. According to the driving mode, until 50, 60 or 80 km / h to 3.5 degrees rotate counterclockwise the front, contributing to turn more with less volanteo and, fundamental, feeling a less stress on the front. From these speeds, the rear wheels rotate up to 1 degree in the same direction, steadying the conduct of the Talisman in the insertion and later support curve.
All this results in essentially theory shunting less physical Parking, the ability to overdraw in small spaces (Beware the columns at the beginning); sensation of spin faster in roundabouts and 90-degree angles, and a huge effectiveness Y stability -and feeling security– cornering, especially as we demand you high speeds passing both slow path, as fast. And all this with a suspension simple back, It composed of a torsional axis against the multilink structures of their rivals. With a damping you can toughen with his Sport mode, all this can be increased, but it is in his comfy mode comfort where the address integral Talisman will transmit plus their advantage: Have a car very soft and comfortable and tremendously reactive and effective without ever violating their attitude to lower demand and rapid spin, dodge, etc. In fact, it is so little "aggressive"That if you’re soft on your driving and traces properly in advance, you may not feel anything different in the Renault Talisman, do not give their rivals, except that just 2.4 turns of the wheel needs to least half a meter to change direction with rivals to 2.8 turns.
Finally, the Renault Talisman also it proposes a motor different, Very current specifications: in this balanced power step, is the most powerful with 160 hp, and succeeds with smaller displacement engine, of only 1.6 liters. It uses 2 turbos, one for low regime and one for high revolutions, which allows you to advertise values pair Y power in line with the 2-liter engine rivals and Mazda6 2.2, also this one of double Turbo. In any case, it is not an engine with lots of character, but rather a motor nice in this Talisman. It is combined with a change automatic from double clutch Y 6 speed which contributes more liking, but it also leaves reactivate the engine response with good driving sequential speeds from lever. Her good fuel economy It goes a long way in not independence, for his small deposit, up to 14 liters over 200 kilometers less than capacity and autonomy respectively their best rivals.
Mondeo: a saloon driver
When you get on the Ford Mondeo after getting off the Renault Talisman, you wonder why a comprehensive direction. Except that parking maneuvers his almost 4.9 meters long exaggeration craved, guiding the Mondeo first results from even more direct and his steering feel and support transmit you a curve solidity Y trust absolute. This Ford is a real giant, but the fact remains that usually drive without kilos or so centimeters penalize dynamically. The Mondeo is a car with a making dynamic point very credible chassis, for the enthusiastic driver for that direct steering feel good and strong support (not lacking in this unit corresponding suspension adaptive with modes sport Y comfort), And how you feel that your rear axle shown reactive to participate in curve without its wheels rotate as the Talisman. But I speak of other conduct.
With fresh feelings Renault Talisman, he Ford Mondeo It was the car I chose to shoot below in INTA track, where you can experience what is beyond under a decidedly fast driving. And the Mondeo It is a very desirable product, Ford, in which you feel at ease and insurance between curves in a car with such making dynamic point you said. But it’s the same Ford Mondeo which leads you to discover the talent of the Renault Talisman.
Is very simple keep pace Mondeo with the Talisman, but complicated and demanding backwards. There comes a time in slow curve Mondeo not to enter its front end does not support both spin and understeer, And you can not accelerate when the Talisman trace entering accelerating faster and leaves. He Mondeo makes up a defense that opens, but it requires certain skills you to move in a quiet limit for the Renault Talisman. You only need to lose a little rhythm, you would mark on a road, to believe and appreciate what good until that point of no return is Mondeo and his great ride quality and bacheo. Their 150 hp are too very good, where appropriate result of a 2-liter and here mediating one 6-speed manual transmission. All this makes you feel more consistent and less response than filtering Talisman and in general very dynamic, although in the final performance ends up yielding to the combination of its rivals. In any case, Ford Mondeo offers Powershift dual clutch which adds great pleasure and dynamism to your 2.0 TDCi.
Mazda 6: engineer a saloon
There are already a few years carrying the Mazda6 in the market. And continues to impress by his willowy figure Y design and if you are someone who engages you technique, for his Incredible low weight and certain features of their no less Diesel engine surprising with the most low compression ratio From the market. Car to 235 kilos lighter than the Ford Mondeo verified by us and by a today "bulky" 2.2 liters of block 150 CV, It makes its performance and efficiency benchmarks. Everything that comes by his motor is the most sparkly of the veteran Mazda6: his huge thrust and the spends little. And his fine acoustics, partly a result of its reduced compression ratio, although no longer surprises both against rivals all of them latest and perhaps best soundproofed. In fact, the rolling noisiness of aerodynamics and high and noisy stops turning the steering wheel denote some carelessness in this regard. The 150 hp Mazda6 transmit a lot and good drive and also very much welcome. It is by far the motor with best performance at very low revs, the result of its high capacity and dual turbo. He change is manual and exquisite touch. It is like driving changes even though this motor It has so many means, it lends itself to be used in long marches and forget the change.
Even without automatic change that opt in Mazda6, the drivetrain is exceptional and in this scenario you would expect a sportier dynamic behavior. His first touch is very good. his address takes you to a quick and easy guided and his good support You feel it dynamic, safe and very comfortable, but you are missing more accurate curve when you start to roll faster. nor slows as you can expect in a car as light. It seems that good dynamics Mazda It arises from a making very balanced point using their under weight and not a very sporty configuration … why you sigh by the power of its engine and its daring design, not because it detracts from the product as it is.
Skoda Superb: limousine saloon
He’s not the biggest, but he plus spacious. Is a luxury travel in their rear seats and the capacity of its trunk is record. And now all this under a design with brighter. The Skoda Superb has always been a very original product, a large Volkswagen Passat that this generation is closer than ever to his dynamic Y modernity. the Skoda Superb It has its own personality, with a loose frame suspension which may favor something more comfort Marching in specific circumstances facing the Passat, giving dynamic efficiency. But now with MQB common platform, also reaches the Skoda Superb the suspension piloted This beautiful finish Laurin & Klement. With this suspension with different modes of work, Superb is a great wheeler. Result very comfortable, but also a car very neutral and greatly simple bringing it fast. No conduct that take you initially feel as dynamic as the Mondeo or the Mazda6, surprises and manages steps cornering at high speed without breaking much as those rivals. The very good electronic stability control management and emulator electronic limited slip It allows you to shoot with greater intensity than you’d think and especially transmitting a lot of security. Electronics of Mondeo (Which it is also much heavier) and Mazda (The oldest car) does not intervene so well in their dynamics. To top off a product it feels authentically Volkswagen, not lack the Superb a good 150 hp 2.0 TDI engine and a DSG effective dual clutch 6 speed which provides a high liking driving good benefits Y low consumption. And with his great Deposit from 66 liters, rewards you with a long autonomy.
Volkswagen Passat: the formula of the saloon
Even with many similarities between the Superb and the Passat, Volkswagen transmits you a higher modernity and also quality perceived. He Passat We reserve the right not to share with the suberb Some elements, such as sophisticated box configurable clocks (Only modern Talisman also has a configurable table, although not part of the navigation map as does the Passat). It also presents some better finishing details, as generally transmits higher quality perceived among its rivals. Dynamically, the Volkswagen Passat makes his balance a set-point master, by effectiveness Y comfort that can roll on all surfaces and paths with a lot simplicity, especially if, as in this unit with accounts suspension piloted and finished Sport. In this regard, Volkswagen Passat It is another very undemanding car with his driver, also in his case by the good participation of electronics in its dynamics. its engine 2.0 TDI 150 hp in combination with DSG dual clutch 6 speed (with decoupling in mode Echo, as the Skoda Superb) Form an excellent set. As in the Superb, your answer is faster and more forceful than in the Talisman and no less enjoyable. And also it provides a large reservoir of 66 liters and consequently greater autonomy.
The comparative numbers for our Technical Center:
Renault Talisman 1.6 dCi 160 hp automatic
urban consumption: 6,4 l / 100 km
Highway consumption: 5.4 l / 100 km
Acceleration 0-100 km / h: 9.75 s
Acceleration 1000 m: 31,5 s
Recovery 20-50 km / h in D: 2.4 s
Recovery 80-120 km / h in D: 7.26 s
Frenada 140-0 km / h: 72 m
Trunk: 550 dm3
Space rear legs: 81 cm
Weight in running order: 1,627 kg
Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 150PS Manual
urban consumption: 6,8 l / 100 km
Highway consumption: 5,5 l / 100 km
Acceleration 0-100 km / h: 9.72 s
Acceleration 1000 m: 31.3 s
Recovery 20-50 km / h in 2nd: 3.3 s
Recovery 80-120 km / h in 6th: 15.8 s
Frenada 140-0 km / h: 70 m
Trunk: 480 dm3
Space rear legs: 79 cm
Weight in running order: 1,745 kg
Mazda6 2.2D 150PS Manual
urban consumption: 6.2 l / 100 km
Highway consumption: 5.4 l / 100 km
Acceleration 0-100 km / h: 8.58 s
Acceleration 1000 m: 29.8 s
Recovery 20-50 km / h in 2nd: 2.7 s
Recovery 80-120 km / h in 6th: 9.9 s
Frenada 140-0 km / h: 79 m
Trunk: 535 dm3
Space rear legs: 83 cm
Weight in running order: 1,510 kg
Skoda Superb 2.0 TDI Automatic
urban consumption: 6.6 l / 100 km
Highway consumption: 5,2 l / 100 km
Acceleration 0-100 km / h: 9.61 s
Acceleration 1000 m: 32,1 s
Recovery 20-50 km / h in D: 2.2 s
Recovery 80-120 km / h in D: 7.45 s
M 140-0 braking: 71 m
Trunk: 595 dm3
Space rear legs: 88 cm
Weight in running order: 1,627 kg
Volkswagen Passat 2.0 TDI Automatic
urban consumption: 6.5 l / 100 km
Highway consumption: 5.3 l / 100 km
Acceleration 0-100 km / h: 9.10 s
Acceleration 1000 m: 30.7 s
Recovery 20-50 km / h in D: 2.2 s
Recovery 80-120 km / h in D: 7.02 s
M 140-0 braking: 69 m
Trunk: 545 dm3
Space rear legs: 87 cm
Weight in running order: 1,583 kg